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HE ASKED FOR NAMES 5 TIMES! Sen. John Kennedy Exposes Expert Witness Who Backtracked On Live TV...

HE ASKED FOR NAMES AGAIN AND AGAIN! John Kennedy Presses Expert on Grocery Price-Fixing Claims

When Americans struggle to afford groceries, they want to know why prices keep climbing—and whether powerful companies are taking advantage of them. During a Senate hearing on May 22, 2024, Louisiana Republican Senator John Kennedy put that question directly to an economic policy expert, turning a discussion about food prices into a tense debate over the difference between suspecting misconduct and accusing a company of a crime.

The witness was Dr. Lindsay Owens, executive director of Groundwork Collaborative. She argued that corporate consolidation and excessive pricing practices were contributing to the pressure on consumers. Kennedy wanted something more specific: which companies, exactly, was she accusing of illegal price-fixing?

“Name Me the Companies”

Kennedy did not let the discussion remain at the level of broad economic arguments.

He asked Owens to identify businesses she believed were engaging in price-fixing in violation of antitrust law. Owens initially pointed to Agri Stats, which the Department of Justice had sued, and mentioned major grocery retailers and meatpackers as businesses regulators should examine.

When Walmart entered the discussion, Kennedy immediately challenged the implication.

“Walmart is price fixing?” he asked.

Owens responded that she had not accused the retailer of price-fixing and explained that her concern involved the ability of large companies to expand their markups. Kennedy insisted that her earlier statements needed to be clarified.

The distinction became the heart of the confrontation. Kennedy wanted a list of companies she was accusing of illegal conduct. Owens argued that she was calling for closer scrutiny and investigation rather than making explicit legal accusations against every retailer she mentioned.

Five Rounds of Questions—and a Memorable Comeback

As the questioning continued, Kennedy returned repeatedly to the same demand: identify the companies, one by one.

Owens referred to Agri Stats and Tyson, then urged the Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission to examine major grocery retailers and meatpackers. But when Kennedy pressed her to say whether Walmart and Albertsons were actually price-fixing, she continued to emphasize the need for further investigation.

Kennedy argued that price-fixing is a serious allegation with potential legal consequences. He warned that accusing a company of a crime without adequate support could expose the accuser to a defamation claim.

Then came the line that gave the exchange its enduring punch.

“You're waffling,” Kennedy said, before adding that Owens was “waffling like a catfish.”

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